To further muddy the waters, her written account of the experience — a frame tale — is being read many years later at a Christmas house party by someone who claims to have known her. The account lends itself to many different interpretations, including those of a Freudian nature. Many critics have tried to determine what exactly is the nature of evil within the story.* (*portions from Wikipedia)
Well, Henry James's The Turn of the Screw immediately came to mind when I read one of the funniest posts I've seen in a long time, where Heidi Diaz (aka The Kimmer) puts the screws to Jeannie Baitinger (aka Tippy Toes).
You may recall that Jeannie Baitinger was the PR Director of Kimkins for a brief but shining moment. She recently appeared on national TV on FOX's "The Morning Show with Mike & Juliet" hawking Kimkins and the Kimkins starvation diet.
Shortly after appearing on the show, Jeannie Baitinger bailed from Kimkins, leaving Heidi high and dry (well, maybe not so dry if there was a bottle of Captain Morgan lying around).
So, Kimmer/Heidi, in a response yesterday to Diets in Review, dished out a big piece of comeuppance to Tippy Toes/Jeannie:
"Kimkins Follow-up
by Brandi
January 2, 2008
posted to Diets in Review.
I wanted to share this Kimkins follow-up with what looks like Kimmer herself. Back in October, Diets In Review shared with you the disappointing news that many Kimkins customers feel that the Kimkins program is fraudulent. Their PR manager, Jeannie Baitinger, responded to Diets In Review and we shared that post with you here.
It appears that in early December, Jeannie left Kimkins. This morning we received a response from Kimmer explaining the departure.
'Please be advised that Jeannie continues to follow and support the Kimkins Plan today.
She simply left Kimkins in order to help spread the word via her own Kimkins-based website. She has my blessing and full support for her Kimkins CTF Diet.
Jeannie is still a very strong Kimkins supporter, and she remains my right hand here at Kimkins. Kimkins would not be the success it is today without all the hard work and support that Jeannie has given me and continues to give me on a daily basis.
If your life has been benefitted by the Kimkins Diet, you owe a great debt to Jeannie and all her hard work.
I couldn’t have achieved all that I have achieved without the monumental contributions made by Jeannie.
She is a fine testament of the proof that the Kimkins Diet is working miracles for thousand of obese men and woman every day.- Kimmer Jan 1st, 2008 at 6:21 pm'"
Why?
Because Tippy Toes,with her knickers in a full-blown twist, posts this diatribe in response:
"I am friggen stunned! I just don't know what else to say. Cutting/reducing fats from Atkins does not make it Kimkins. I have done both and I know the difference.
First, I am in no way affiliated with Kimkins. In fact, I don't even visit the site. Check the stats for yourselves. I will try to make this very clear. I left Kimkins to avoid being dragged into a lawsuit and a serious one at that. It is not my intent to bad mouth Heidi or her Kimkins plans. That is NOT saying I support her or any fraud she has done.
I am not following Kimkins diet. I am at goal. I did re-gain a tad over the holidays. I tried STILLMAN'S Quick Weight Loss and took it off. I do believe in freedom of plan choice and I will never bully or harass anyone for their plan of choice. As far as Kimkins plans, yes I did lose weight and a lot of it. No one wants to hear it but I will not lie about it. I have no reason to. I stalled on Atkins after about a 50lb loss. I tried Kimkins but learned I just couldn't stay on it long. But I also saw weight loss for the first time in a very long time. So, I learned to cycle it back and forth--Kimkins to lose--Atkins to maintain. There are threads at LCF which show this though they are mostly overlooked. : A matter of convenience I am certain. Check the thread "Has Atkins Quit Working For You". It's all there. Another thread I posted a lot on was Support Unlimited. And for a while Banta Babes. Some say that was never Kimkins... But on a Kimkins cycle round it WAS.
Because I did lose a lot of weight using Kimkins I have not asked her to remove my success story. I know that is going to make a lot of people mad to read but that is how I feel. It is fair. I have not had contact with Heidi about my pics, my story or anything else. All ties are severed. We do not communicate by email, telephone or 3rd parties. And while I have been granted immunity from the lawsuit in exchange for cooperating I have not joined the lawsuit nor do I want my money refunded. I just want to be left in peace from all sides. This has been a nightmare.
A family member has started reading all the blogs and such about me and is now worried to death over it all. He didn't need that at all. He has had one stroke previously and suffers from other health and stress problems. My daughter started reading it too and is very angry over the obvious lies. In fact, my entire family is worried sick for me. People who do not know me at all are repeating the lies. It is sickening of the joy some get from attempts to ruin a person's life. I don't understand it.
I had no idea when I left Kimkins that I would be starting a site. In fact, I looked into Amy's site as a new home and was instantly banned thanks to LCF members who are determined I am not worthy of support, even though I have supported so many of them on my weight loss journey. This is what lead to Brian and Heather offering to build us our very own "home" and that is how Camp Carbaway was born. There was no master plot happening at Kimkins. We can all clearly see how people who follow her diets are treated by the other low carb communities. IF she should be forced to shut her doors due to the lawsuit her people are most assuredly welcome here. In fact, I don't care if they want to be members of both. That is their right.
Further, I find it surprising that Heidi would want us to offer Kimkins plans here as she sent Brian an email with a hint she would sue anyone for copycatting her plans. And, after all, they do belong to her. I respect that. Because of that I find it hard to imagine that Heidi would write that at all... And I suspect she did not. What I do suspect is just another person claiming glory to once again put a dagger in the middle of my back. Seems my suffering is their joy.
Jimmy, pass my email on if you like. I am glad to give them an interview.
baitingerjeannie@yahoo.com "
Looks like The Kimmer succeeded in turning the screw.
Please check out the blogs of two of my favorite bloggers for their take on the latest round of Kimmer v. Tippy and Tippy v. Kimmer:
http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/01/kimkins-follow-up/
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7 comments:
Excellent analogy. I imagine TT's response was everything Kimmer could have hoped for and then some. Kimmer's one smart sugar cookie.
OYB
Considering the Kimkins diet? Read this first: Kimkins Diet Scam Update.
actually it was even eviler if you know it wasn't an email, but actually a comment Kimmer left in the rebuttal topic Jeannie sent dietsinreview back in OCT in her official capacity as PR director. http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/10/direct-from-kimkins-rebuttal/It was burried behind another commnet about how the Kimkins.com PR director had jumped ship with links to Medusa's and my blog pages about that.
Kimmer knew only the antikimkins folk would read it so it wasn't going to cost her any money from folk joining Camp and not her site.
Wonder what she thinks now that it is out as its own page where potention kimkins victims might decide to go to camp instead.
Thanks for your comment, OYB! I agree that Tippy played right into Kimmer's hand.
2Big, thanks so much for setting the record straight! Great comment and insight!
you are welcome and be on the look out for further updates from TT cause she is finally understanding how evil the owner of Kimkins.com Kimmer is.
2Big, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs waiting for the next salvo from Tippy Toes :^)
Kimmer's not lying about some of it -- "Kimkins would not be the success it is today without all the hard work and support that Jeannie has given".
And "If your life has been benefitted by the Kimkins Diet, you owe a great debt to Jeannie and all her hard work."
And Kimmer "couldn’t have achieved all that [she has] achieved without the monumental contributions made by Jeannie."
Aiding & abetting.
Look for Kimmer to turn more screws as the lawsuit lurches onward & the trial date nears .. for example..."Kimkins would not be the success it is today without all the hard work and support that Becky has given me... If your life has been benefitted by the Kimkins Diet, you owe a great debt to Becky and all her hard work...I couldn’t have achieved all that I have achieved without the monumental contributions made by Becky...."
Yucky! Thanks for taking time out from your super sleuthing to leave this excellent comment on my blog about the aiding and abetting of previous high-ranking members of Kimkins and their specious relationships with Kimmer/Heidi Diaz.
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